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#486 – Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

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Sunday, November 30, 2025
#486 – Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

#486 – Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

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Michael Levin is a biologist at Tufts University working on novel ways to understand and control complex pattern formation in biological systems. https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep486-sc Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/michael-levin-2-transcript CONTACT LEX: Feedback – give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey AMA – submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama Hiring – join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring Other – other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact EPISODE LINKS: https://x.com/drmichaellevin https://drmichaellevin.org https://drmichaellevin.org/publications/ https://arxiv.org/abs/2207.00880 https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.05375 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38636560/ https://arxiv.org/abs/2201.10346 https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/scirobotics.abf1571 SPONSORS: Shopify: Sell stuff online. https://shopify.com/lex CodeRabbit: AI-powered code reviews. https://coderabbit.ai/lex LMNT: Zero-sugar electrolyte drink mix. https://drinkLMNT.com/lex UPLIFT Desk: Standing desks and office ergonomics. https://upliftdesk.com/lex Miro: Online collaborative whiteboard platform. https://miro.com/ MasterClass: Online classes from world-class experts. https://masterclass.com/lexpod OUTLINE: (00:00) – Introduction (00:29) – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections (10:09) – Biological intelligence (18:42) – Living vs non-living organisms (23:55) – Origin of life (27:40) – The search for alien life (on Earth) (1:00:44) – Creating life in the lab – Xenobots and Anthrobots (1:13:46) – Memories and ideas are living organisms (1:27:26) – Reality is an illusion: The brain is an interface to a hidden reality (2:13:13) – Unexpected Intelligence in sorting algorithms (2:38:51) – Can aging be reversed? (2:42:41) – Mind uploading (3:01:22) – Alien intelligence (3:16:17) – Advice for young people (3:22:46) – Questions for AGI

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